Question for the Judokas

[Matt]

Are there certain throws/takedowns that you would use in a Judo competition that you would'nt use in a BJJ comp?
The reason for my question (apart from skiving off at work  ) is that i have been recently watching some of the Judo grand slam coverage on Sky sports. Now as a complete novice, to my eye some of the throws when executed seem to leave the thrower in a vulnerable position when completed, e.g. the person they have thrown ending up in back mount or at very least in a good position to take the choke. Either that or a lot of the throws end in positions where the person being thrown  can sweep almost immediatley (i realise that under Judo's rule set that a clean throw results in the end of the match, excuses for the lack of correct terminology).
So i was just curious as to the thought process for those that practice and compete in Judo and compete in BJJ also, with regards to the stand up part of a BJJ match are there certain throws that you would deem as being a bit to risky from a positional sense that you would normally go for in a Judo match?

[CAE]

Are there certain throws/takedowns that you would use in a Judo competition that you would'nt use in a BJJ comp?
The reason for my question (apart from skiving off at work  ) is that i have been recently watching some of the Judo grand slam coverage on Sky sports. Now as a complete novice, to my eye some of the throws when executed seem to leave the thrower in a vulnerable position when completed, e.g. the person they have thrown ending up in back mount or at very least in a good position to take the choke. Either that or a lot of the throws end in positions where the person being thrown  can sweep almost immediatley (i realise that under Judo's rule set that a clean throw results in the end of the match, excuses for the lack of correct terminology).
So i was just curious as to the thought process for those that practice and compete in Judo and compete in BJJ also, with regards to the stand up part of a BJJ match are there certain throws that you would deem as being a bit to risky from a positional sense that you would normally go for in a Judo match?

Under the correct situations anything executed with the correct technique will work; so there is nothing I would fully rule out attempting.

I think anybody looking to throw needs to realise that there is a potential punishment in BJJ of losing position for an extended period; where-as under judo rules there is a lesser risk; you are trading the reward of ending the match early vs defending for a limited time in ne-waza.

That being said, IMO low BJJ postures make uchimata, osoto-gari and other 'classical upright throws' somewhat more difficult to execute; whilst yoko-tomoe-nage, sumi-gaeshi, kata-garuma and kouchi-gari a whole lot easier.

[ninja turtle]

Try some throws at training and see what happens, some mite work really well for you, some wont.

The worse that will happen is you tap.

[jonbroster]

Hi,

When I first started BJJ I saw people in a bent over stance & started throwing from a belt hold on their back. This is fine for judo, but not good if people a looking to take your back.

Now I normally throw only from an under-hook, never from an over-hook (so O Goshi, not Koshi Guruma).

That said, most judo players have a clear Tokui Waza (favourite tecnique) & I am guessing that anyone worth his salt would be able to use their favourite throw in BJJ.

And Sumi Gaeshi rules as a counter to a poor single or double leg.


For me it is a combination of Ko Uchi Gari, Uchi Mata & Ko Soto Gari.

Jon

[havoc_720]

Totally agree with the judoka above, as Jon pointed out BJJ players usually take a bent over posture wen doing their 'stand up' phase, this does make it pretty easy to get my favorite throw, sumi geshi 

My advice wud be to find a few throws that you like and use them wen u spar and see what positions you end up in and change them to suit ur needs.

Baz

[Matt]

cheers guys. A couple of throws there to look up on youtube now.

[bomberh]

to my eye some of the throws when executed seem to leave the thrower in a vulnerable position when completed, e.g. the person they have thrown ending up in back mount or at very least in a good position to take the choke.

Only if the throw fails.  If it works your opponent is flat on their back and the judoka has side control or North South.